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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s my favorite in that I hate tariffs with a great passion.  There&#039;s tons of other horrid stuff in the bill.  I think the worst part is that they broke the fundamental thing that might have made it palatable -- auctioning off permits instead of giving them out to politically powerful industries.

I see your point.  And if we had a carbon tax instead of cap and trade, I&#039;d agree with it.  But what we&#039;re doing is moving something from the regulatory framework to the tariff framework.  It&#039;s no different, really, from imposing tariffs on countries that don&#039;t meet our ideas of proper employment practices.  And I&#039;m sure the Chinese won&#039;t see it as fair and retaliate with tariffs of their own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s my favorite in that I hate tariffs with a great passion.  There&#8217;s tons of other horrid stuff in the bill.  I think the worst part is that they broke the fundamental thing that might have made it palatable &#8212; auctioning off permits instead of giving them out to politically powerful industries.</p>
<p>I see your point.  And if we had a carbon tax instead of cap and trade, I&#8217;d agree with it.  But what we&#8217;re doing is moving something from the regulatory framework to the tariff framework.  It&#8217;s no different, really, from imposing tariffs on countries that don&#8217;t meet our ideas of proper employment practices.  And I&#8217;m sure the Chinese won&#8217;t see it as fair and retaliate with tariffs of their own.</p>
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		<title>By: rpl</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If American companies have to pay what amounts to a tax on GHG emission, then doesn&#039;t charging the same tax on imports just level the playing field?  Presumably countries with VAT apply the VAT to imported goods, resulting in a big VAT burden for the importer, but we don&#039;t normally characterize that as a &quot;tariff&quot;.

Really, if that&#039;s the most offensive clause you found in Waxman-Markey, then you just aren&#039;t looking hard enough.  Or maybe I&#039;m misunderstanding you, and you meant the provision for a tax on foreign emissions was literally your favorite, inasmuch as it was the least objectionable part of the whole bill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If American companies have to pay what amounts to a tax on GHG emission, then doesn&#8217;t charging the same tax on imports just level the playing field?  Presumably countries with VAT apply the VAT to imported goods, resulting in a big VAT burden for the importer, but we don&#8217;t normally characterize that as a &#8220;tariff&#8221;.</p>
<p>Really, if that&#8217;s the most offensive clause you found in Waxman-Markey, then you just aren&#8217;t looking hard enough.  Or maybe I&#8217;m misunderstanding you, and you meant the provision for a tax on foreign emissions was literally your favorite, inasmuch as it was the least objectionable part of the whole bill.</p>
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